Wednesday, October 12, 2005

Universal Reconciliation

I've been feeling a blog post creeping up on me. I hope nobody has been feeling too alienated by my bursts of poetry. I've quoted Emerson before, and I shall again: The young man reveres men of genius, because, to speak truly, they are more himself than he is. They receive of the soul as he also receives, but they more. Sometimes poets are very much more myself than I am, and I am grateful to lean on their understanding for a while.

Meeting at Cambridge was almost silent this First day, but very full. I'd been reading a bit of the book If God is Love, which I am finding very moving, as I read it snatches at a time. I'll buy it soon. In the introductory chapters, the authors talk about the fear of God. Though the book is written by two Quaker ministers, one who grew up Roman Catholic and one who grew up Evangelical Christian, it is written in first person. I feel that it suffers a little bit in this as it tends to lean towards the Protestant experience, but I'm still finding myself struck. The narrator speaks of growing up in a loving church, with loving parents, teachers, and preachers, and yet growing up to fear an abusive God. One quote struck me through the heart:

“Fear and love are incompatible. . . . A child trembles when a parent threatens, `If you don’t behave, I’ll send you away.’ A wife is terrorized when a husband warns, `If you leave me. I’ll kill you.’ Human beings cower when God commands, `Serve me, or I’ll damn you to hell.’ Where fear is encouraged, love withers.” “Fear indicates our distrust of the one who claims to love us.” (IGIL, p.26)

As I sat in meeting, my mind was filled with memories of pain and rejection and fear and loneliness that touched on all of those examples. I was deeply shaken, reliving each moment, and seeing how they were all connected. I was a loved child, but every childhood brings its challenges. I have experienced and witnessed abuse between partners. And I have lain awake at night wondering who of the people that I loved might be going to hell, and how I could save myself and all of us. I used to have recurring nightmares where, hysterical, I rushed around our property frantically trying to get all of my little brothers and sisters into the house before the Three Day Darkness.

Even when I wasn't worried about the literal Three Day Darkness, there were so many people I knew that might not make it to heaven. My religious training was very thorough, and it was made clear to me that we never know the final destination of any soul, that only God can know the true heart of anyone. It was made clear that God didn't send anyone to hell, people sent themselves there. When I got older, I read Screwtape and the rest of C.S. Lewis. I read Aquinas and Augustine. I studied the catechism, and I realized that the Three Day Darkness was not a doctrine sanctioned by the Church. It wasn't the literal event I'd grown up believing it to be, but it still held deep hold over my soul. However you wanted to frame it, some of us would be destroyed in the end. God was merciful, but he was also just, and held to the laws of justice. I understood it all intellectually. I knew it was so, and why. Cross-referenced.

It still hurt, though, to look around me at all the souls in the supermarket...my human brothers and sisters, and know that some of us weren't going to make it. I often wondered...if I am made sad by the temporal suffering of those around me, how could I ever be happy in heaven knowing that some of the Communion of Saints were missing, disowned, burning in unquenchable fire as I moved into my mansion? And as for justice, I wondered, how could a temporal act ever merit eternal punishment? My blood often ran cold. I pictured a family around a table eating a holiday meal, one child missing, unable to be mentioned, his existence wiped away. I felt the loss. And I wondered. I am a lowly human being, full of faults, and my love is broken and impure, and yet, I am horrified by the thought of someone suffering like that. And God, so infinitely greater and more loving...how could He stand it?

A priest sternly told me I was not to judge God. That His ways are not our ways. But my heart protested. I am made in His image, and all that is good in me, my compassion, my love, my mercy, my gentleness, my tenderness, came from God. It can't contradict His being. I've been told of the theological errors implicit in this belief, but it is something that goes much deeper than dogma. This is not theology. This is Truth.

“Human transformation comes when love casts out fear, assuring us we’ll never be disowned, abandoned, or destroyed. Only in the rich soil of unconditional love can we truly grow. Believing in God’s desire to save every person calms our fears of acceptance. Grace gives us the freedom to live boldly.” (IGIL, p.27)

This was not meant to be a post about why don't believe in a literal, eternal Hell, but that's what it's turning out to be. For anyone interested in the deeper theological reasoning, I reccommend the books of people like Philip Gulley and Jim Mulholland (who wrote If God is Love and also If Grace is True) and Philip Yancey, who wrote another book I've been dipping into, called What’s So Amazing About Grace?, and Thomas Talbott who wrote The Inescapable Love of God, which I have not read (beyond an excerpt) yet, but have on my list. They are all more articulate than I. I don't mean to build up and defend a stance of apologetics, but instead to share what I have been shown.

So I sat in meeting and I thought of all this, and I leaned forward in my bench and I tried to shush myself, but as soon as the room had settled I cried, full on and unquenchably, like a baby. It took me a good long time to be calmed. Finally, I was still and felt my mind and heart moved in worship. The last lines of a poem I love dearly came to me, over and over again,

You gave me
in secret one thing
to perceive, the
tall blue starry
strangenesss of being
here at all.

You gave us each in secret something to perceive.

Furless now, upright, My banished
and experimental child

You said, though your own heart condemn you

I do not condemn you.


And over and over again,

though your own heart condemn you

I do not condemn you.


again

I do not condemn you.

and again

I do not condemn you.

And I knew at least for a moment, that it was true. As I rested in this little moment of peace, in the silence that still bathed the meeting room, my face hot and flushed against the cool wood of the bench before me, a small, wavering, crackled old voice from a bench somewhere behind me began to sing:

How could anyone ever tell you
You were anything less than Beautiful?

How could anyone ever tell you
You were less than whole?

How could anyone fail to notice
That your loving is a miracle?

How deeply you're connected to my soul.



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“There is nothing we can do that will make God love us more. There is nothing we can do that will make God love us less.” -Philip Yancey

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

You know, as a Christian, I've had a terrible time reconciling the concept of Hell and a Loving God. I've just had to come to terms with the fact that, as God so eloquently pointed out in Job, I'm NOT God. I know He is perfectly and devinely just and maybe I can't understand it now, but I will when I get the Heaven. This post was a breath of fresh air from the Fire-and-Brimstone I hear all the time.

Larry Clayton said...

This is super-beautiful, Amanda, what I call confession; that is who you are. I have only one thing to tell you:

You are a very loving person, but God is oh, so much more. The hellfire and brimstone is a misapprehension.

We will all meet in the grand Eternity, and we will be one- in the Spirit.

The Koran teaches that at the end God will forgive even the devil. Of course their idea of the devil was far different from ours.

Continue through your wonderful life, shedding your grace wherever you go; you are very good at it.

Kate said...

We don't know that anyone is in hell...on the other hand, we do have plenty of evidence of some of those who have made it to heaven...

Remember the last chapter of The Last Battle? With the dwarves eating the fruit and sitting in the sunshine, convinced that they were eating straw and sitting in a dung heap? Well, I have met people like that.

The Great Divorce offers another attempt to explain it - the reality that is just too real for some.

But personally, when I think of the afterlife, I will always think of Leaf by Niggle, by JRR Tolkein.

You see, for all of your intuition and inability to believe that God's love and mercy could leave anyone in the dark, out of his presence, my intuition and belief in God's love and mercy renders me incapable of believing that He could force Himself on anyone. To be utterly crass, God is a lover, not a rapist.

But then, these things are mysteries, and as I said, we are not obliged to believe that anyone, save Satan, is in hell. For all that, I believe that Hell exists and is an option for any person who refuses God's loving entreaties.

But then, what can my words mean to you? Rest in Christ's peace all you can Amanda, let go your worries and follow where He leads. My prayers are ever with you, and it is a privelige to witness your journey here.

Liz Opp said...

As Kate writes, it is a privilege to witness your journey here, Amanda.

And I must add my own "Here, here!" to your experience: A priest sternly told me I was not to judge God... But my heart protested. I am made in His image, and all that is good in me, my compassion, my love, my mercy, my gentleness, my tenderness, came from God. It can't contradict His being. I've been told of the theological errors implicit in this belief, but it is something that goes much deeper than dogma. This is not theology. This is Truth.

This is Truth for me as well, Friend. And I'm glad that Spirit was moving among you on First Day, and that that Friend sang what was in your heart...

Blessings,
Liz, The Good Raised Up

Amanda said...

Kate, your words mean much to me by virtue of their love.

With the dwarves eating the fruit and sitting in the sunshine, convinced that they were eating straw and sitting in a dung heap? Well, I have met people like that.

As have I. I've said before that I think heaven and hell are the same thing, from two different viewpoints. I believe that all sorts of hells exist. I have lived through them, and I know people wallowing in them.

It is always possible to exile yourself. But I also believe it is always possible to come back. I don't believe that the God ever lowers the draw-bridge.

I know that God is not a rapist. I find the anaolgy breaks down. I believe that people resist love only out of fear and pain and ignorance. A true, good lover, far from being a rapist, would constantly remind the beloved that He is there for her. Whenever she is ready. And He loves her. And there is no expiration date on that love. That she may run and she may wander, but He will always be waiting for her.

The tragedy in human love is that if you wait too long, one of you might die without ever having the chance to enjoy the full relationship you could have had.

While I believe there is much to be lost by refusing God's loving entreaties -- all the good you might do in your life, for example, I don't believe there is any deadline on God's love.


"I believe that we all have this dark underestimation of ourselves. Sometimes it is masked as arrogance, overestimation, superiority, but underneath the brashness the problem is insecurity and only unqualified, unmerited, unconditional love can assuage it."


-Madeleine L'Engle

Lorcan said...
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Lorcan said...

I was thinking tonight of a conversation I was having with a born agian pastor, as I was writing to a born again friend, who is obviously sad for my failing to see Jesus as she does, I - as Christ as rabbi, and one of many Christs who teach us, she as one Christ Jesus who alone saves us... Well, I was having a talk with a minister as my friend Sally was close to death in England.
He said, how can you not feel that God will judge and punish you. I pointed out that judgement and punnishment, in his description is not even universal in human societies, it is a construct particular to some human cultures. God is so much bigger than any box we put God into.
We punnish ourselves enough and devide ourselves out from God when we fail to love. You begin this post with, “Fear and love are incompatible." and I remember Hicks turning the phrase from the bible about a bit, to say, fear is the greatest barrier to perfect love.
How to leave fear behind. Oh the trap of fear.
I felt a strong message to the children of our meeting last month, that we learn in first day school the greatest power of Quakers, the power of courage.
Courage is not the absence of fear, it is the setting aside of fear, to be open to God. Fear is the punnishment, giving over to fear and not experienceing God's love, the love of our communities, of each other.
It is not a light thing that Jesus tells us that the 11th comandment is to love each other. Because it is that love that delivers us from absence of God - alianation from each other, the God in each other.
You know I say all this, having given in to fear at times. Fear of loss of God's love, fear of loss of love, is so much greater than the fear of death, that is the easy fear to get past. But to be free of fear of the great loss.
Well, be joyful and love.
Thy Friend and friend as ever
lor

Anonymous said...

Wasn't the word "fear" in the Bible better translated as "awe?"

I thought I read that somewhere.

Contemplative Activist said...

Thanks Amanda, this is a really beautiful post. I remember once having a conversation with a staunch evangelical about hell and Muslims. At the end of it, I had nothing else to say but, 'This is my friend who is a Muslim, we have been friends for years. We have laughed together and cried together. We have studied together, worked together, done good together and played together. We have much in common - we both value love, kindness, compassion, generosity, truth and goodness. If God chooses to send her to hell for not believing in my religion, then I am not sure that I wish to be in his petty little Christian heaven.'

If we would not be so tight-fisted, so cruel or so unkind, why would God? In an age where religious violence rears its ugly head, we so desperately need to experience the universal love of God.

CA

Kate said...

Amanda,

Ah, I see. So really the difficulty is not hell, but the timelessness and unchanging nature of eternity. That, my friend, is a mystery so great it consistently sends me into awe and silence when I contemplate it. Change requires time...but what when there is no longer time? The closest I ever come to being a mystic is when I contemplate that great wonder, so much larger that I, in my timefulness, can understand.

I am glad you know I love you, Amanda. It makes these discussions so much easier to have, and more valuable.

Anonymous said...

Amanda...beautiful blog post! I don't see how any member of the Religious Society of Friends could be anything other than a universalist. As a Christian, I believe that Jesus Christ's mission on Earth would be successful only if all is restored and "God is all in all."

Jim Mullholland and Phil Gulley's books have blessed my heart as well. Phil is as delightful and loving in person as he comes across in his books (I've not met Jim).

My fundamentalist father and I were talking the other day about hell and I asked, "could you be happy in Heaven if you knew one of your children were in Hell?" Silence. Then, he admitted that he could not. I think he might be a universalist in the making.

God is Love....period!

Amanda said...
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Amanda said...

(grr should of check this for spelling errors before I posted it!)

Many thanks and much love to everyone that's commented!

Craig, I think that a certain type of universalism is inherent in the Quaker concept of "that of God in everyone. I believe God is omnipresent, and unchanging, everywhere at all times and living in each human being, from the very beginning until the very end(only...there is no end!) I don't believe that we are born without God's grace, or that we can lose it, or that we must do specific things to obtain it.

I believe that we must nurture it and prune ourselves of all that can cripple it. God's grace is freely bestowed upon us, worked into the very fabric of our being, and our job is to clear the clouded parts of ourselves away so that Christ is left to shine through and free to work in the world.

I believe that we can ignore it, and we can obscure it, and we can smother and silence it. We can degrade and abuse the gift of God in us and in other people. When we do any of these things, we do, in a way, make God less present in the world. We hide our light under a bushel, and the whole room gets a little darker. But we can't do anything to make God desert us. Our God is a faithful God!

Lorcan said...

Well... on one level, yes, most Friends ARE on some level Universalists... (though our dear Friend John Maynard says, "I'd love to call myself a Universalist, but FRANKLY I believe NOTHING! BUT, I do know something happens in meeting. It works, Quakerism makes me a better person... ) I have yet to find a Quaker who feels non-Christians are by nature damned, but, I have met Friends who would rather worship among fellow Quakers who accept Jesus as a personal savior, and yet, we do get along and love each other fairly well, which is why we proceed forward from the healing of the schism, not as a single line of march, but this wonderful ambling stroll, which Friends go wander off a little one way and another, but we arrive at dinner, pretty much together - the perfect herding of cats...
Forgive me posting this again, if thee reads Consider the Lilies, but I have really fallen in love with this passage from the Book of Thomas, which I am convinced is an accurate account of the sayings of Jesus. It really speaks to that of God in each of us. Just as in one part of Thomas, Jesus describes us all as twins... he also describes us all as the children of God ( though in his day he DID say sons... we present Children of Light, could well forgive that... )

"Jesus said: If they say to you: Whence have you come?, say to them: We have come from the light, the place where the light came into being of itself. It [established itself], and it revealed itself in their image. If they say to you: Who are you?, say: We are his sons, and we are the elect of the living Father. If they ask you: What is the sign of your Father in you?, say to them: It is movement and rest." Movement and rest...

These words movement and rest have been ringing in my heart. I have been traveling in dangerous floods, wet and windblown, and longing for sleep, and finding such succor at the Quaker meetings I have paused within... movement and rest, great loss the past few weeks, disappointment and pain, and yet in God I can set that aside and find rest.

Barry said...

Thank you. What you've shared through your experience and the writing of this entry is wonderful, a blessing.

Michelle said...

I have also struggled with this. Still do. Excellent post!

Helen Louise said...

I was just searching for 'universal reconciliation" and found your post. I'm very glad I did because you seem to have the same anguish about it that I do - even down to looking around and wondering who won't be saved. I couldn't even have conversations with people without becoming frightened that they'd be lost. I'm beginning to trust that God will save everyone. Anyway, will have to read more of your blog :)